In a dialogue between Will Douglas Heaven from MIT Technology Review and Tim Bradshaw from Financial Times, the future of AI by 2030 is debated. Heaven notes the contrasting views on AI's impact, with some predicting it will surpass the Industrial Revolution's effects, while others argue that societal change will lag behind technological advancements. The discussion highlights the potential for economic inequality, as access to AI tools may become increasingly limited to wealthier users. Both experts acknowledge the slowing pace of core AI technology advancements, suggesting that applications will become the primary focus. They also discuss the implications of rising costs for AI services and the potential for disparities in global AI adoption, particularly between the Global North and South.